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Yes, everything (stats, world's, mcmmo, money)
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Yes, world's only
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Re: Reset?

Post by patisfat » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:58 pm

klubjosh wrote:I'm done here. The only way this server will get any better is when everyone stops caring about their own selfish interests. You all say we will lose a lot of players, yet we've lost and continue to lose so many more. All of my friends I knew that played craftland have quit. Main reasons: Boring, No Competition, No Economy
That is what a reset will fix. No comeptetion is because everyone have everything. No one is off trying to get diamonds or anything and that also makes it boring. If the server was reset more hardcore people would come back and they people that cant handle hardcore minecraft would leave.

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Re: Reset?

Post by Killgun » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:02 pm

Cynthriel wrote:If implemented, these wouldn't persuade the economy much.
People have so much wealth reserved that the server is basically pinned to an ultimatum of reset = fix, no reset = stay broken. Now you come off as self centered by only caring about what affects you.

There are also little things, like the amount of warps players have, that devalue what a survival server is. As I said before, the whole configurations need to be reworked. Added with the diluted terrain the worlds have, and how much is missing... people having so many diamonds in reserve, ect. it leaves a stain that says wealth needs to be removed, while chunk errors, mcmmo and enchant abused terrain says worlds should be reset.
Nobody seems to be listening to me. Can somebody help me here? Its not all self centered. It would remove plenty of harmful things from the server, and yet people don't realize that.
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Re: Reset?

Post by Arttu » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:04 pm

klubjosh wrote: All of my friends I knew that played craftland have quit. Main reasons: Boring, No Competition, No Economy
Your friends came to Craftland to accumulate a bigger bunch of stuff than everyone else and sit on it? Good riddance.
I saw Craftland as a pretty open-minded community with great personas both in the users and in the staff, combined with just enough but not too much extra content added (mcmmo in particular!). We had a lot of creative minds (probably, there are still those kinda guys/gals out there) working out events and stuff like that. It almost felt to me like I had a second, chunky family. But I digress.

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I suppose it is obvious the main issues are the mods and plugins stacked on the server simultaineously causing unforeseen effects when combined. (mcmmo+money+spawners)
A balance needs to be found, probably meaning a lot of things need to nerfed if not removed.
Removing money would leave us with players working towards things more, alone or in teams, rather than mining obsidian and selling it to an endless pit known as the shop.
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Did anyone happen to think about the fact that resetting now will mean there will be resets in the future, probably meaning people will only build things to a certain point, knowing it will be wiped out soon anyway?

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Re: Reset?

Post by Arttu » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:06 pm

KILLGUN345 wrote: Nobody seems to be listening to me. Can somebody help me here? Its not all self centered. It would remove plenty of harmful things from the server, and yet people don't realize that.
Removing huge segments of the game such as the Nether and the End would be a wrong way to look at this, since it is not those maps themselves that are the issue. It's what the economy and mcmmo combined allow people to gain from those maps, through abuse.

Also, read Handy's comment under this. You did look at this huge huge issue from your own point of view, no one elses.

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Re: Reset?

Post by Handyman » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:06 pm

Killgun, go read what you posted, it is full of "I don't care, I didn't had any"
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Re: Reset?

Post by Cynthriel » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:16 pm

miner_arttu wrote: Did anyone happen to think about the fact that resetting now will mean there will be resets in the future, probably meaning people will only build things to a certain point, knowing it will be wiped out soon anyway?
This is why I want to do much more than reset. Craftland has an attenuated definition of survival integrated within it.
Preparations and much effort needs to be put forth so future resets are non-existent.

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Re: Reset?

Post by klubjosh » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:16 pm

miner_arttu wrote:Your friends came to Craftland to accumulate a bigger bunch of stuff than everyone else and sit on it? Good riddance.
You don't know me or my friends so why don't you in your own words,
miner_arttu wrote:take disagreements to another thread, if you could be so kind.
It's a fact of life that competition is fun. Your description of my friends is more of yourself, once again in ur words,
miner_arttu wrote:I have invested a whole lot of time building structures, art, infrastructure etc.
I have accumulated items, especially gold to fulfil my dream of building a legit CITY OF GOLD. I would find it cruel if every single thing I have achieved during my extensive stay at Craftland would be demolished.
It is true that I too gained a lot from the loose control over MONEY. I got used to buying stuff from the shop if I couldn't be arsed to mine it, farm it or harvest it from the corpses of pigs. BUT, at the time, it was not against any rules. The system just got out of hand as the server gained popularity. There was a money reset already, and the system, I believe, is being fixed, if it has not already. I haven't had a computer capable of running Minecraft for some time so I've a lot of catching up to do.

Anyway: I was not guilty, therefore I should not be punished.
Sounds like you want to just sit on your wealth, my friends wanted a fair economy where you could get rich in ways besides playing monsterhunt and obsidian farming.

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Re: Reset?

Post by Killgun » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:19 pm

miner_arttu wrote:
KILLGUN345 wrote: Nobody seems to be listening to me. Can somebody help me here? Its not all self centered. It would remove plenty of harmful things from the server, and yet people don't realize that.
Removing huge segments of the game such as the Nether and the End would be a wrong way to look at this, since it is not those maps themselves that are the issue. It's what the economy and mcmmo combined allow people to gain from those maps, through abuse.

Also, read Handy's comment under this. You did look at this huge huge issue from your own point of view, no one elses.
We wouldn't remove the worlds, just reset them.
3, 5, 6, and 7 are about me, yes, but they effect other players too. The person who has the most spawners on this server is Zarvon, and look at him, he doesn't care! Just watch his video!
Not a lot of people go to the Nether unless they plan on getting greifed, and not a lot of people go to the End unless they plan on dying a number of ways. People go to the End for Ender Dragons.
Ender dragons don't respawn for some odd reason.
Reset End = Dragons.
Dragons = Happy people.

Number 3, well, everybody said "If there's gonna be a reset let it only be money" so obviously not many people care about that.
And I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed somebody to back me up here. SOMEONE has to agree with what I suggested.
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Re: Reset?

Post by Handyman » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:28 pm

If only money gets removed, then there will still be a certain group of players that hold loads and then realy loads of goods.
This because if mcmmo and enchantments, giving probably half ir maybe even a full stack of diamonds out of one vain.
This group haven't sheared what they think about this subject yet, probably because they are to greedy on harvesting it all now and hope there will be no full reset, and just a money reset.

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Re: Reset?

Post by Arttu » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:30 pm

[quote="klubjosh"][/quote]
Alright, I'll admit to some bad word choices, but I've always used what I've gathered without actually looking at how much is left. I would not just sit on it. I don't compete with other players much, because I never saw any fun in it, since- well, unless there was some kind of event going on, there wasn't any point in competing.

Anyways, this thread is starting to have a lot of good stuff for the staff to consider.
Sure hope Nide gets to this thread before it's full of more of my angry nonsense.

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