Articulations of a Vilified Staff Member

[Jovaniph]

Last thing I want is a bunch of crybaby staff members.

You. Don't. Even. Play.

You don't know the current situation. You haven't logged on for over 2 months. Please, do not stir things up when you haven't been around to know what's going on.

Seriously? You want to start this because I had a different opinion and point of view? Stop trying to make me look like I'm the bad guy here. I know I haven't been on for 2 months, but that doesn't mean I don't get what's going on.

Stop thinking that I'm against what Odd has to say or against staff. He expressed his opinion and therefore I intervene 'professionally' towards his opinion. I didn't attack him... You should learn to have a little faith about how discussions work. I'll give you a hint: They are more than one side to a discussion because they promote new ideas and opinion.

[amp]

Last thing I want is a bunch of crybaby staff members.

You. Don't. Even. Play.

You don't know the current situation. You haven't logged on for over 2 months. Please, do not stir things up when you haven't been around to know what's going on.

Seriously? You want to start this because I had a different opinion and point of view? Stop trying to make me look like I'm the bad guy here. I know I haven't been on for 2 months, but that doesn't mean I don't get what's going on.

Stop thinking that I'm against what Odd has to say or against staff. He expressed his opinion and therefore I intervene 'professionally' towards his opinion. I didn't attack him... You should learn to have a little faith about how discussions work. I'll give you a hint: They are more than one side to a discussion because they promote new ideas and opinion.

Why would a physicist have a discussion about his work with a McDonalds worker?

He wouldn't.

You see, Jovan, you don't get what's going on. Have you even logged in since the new rules took effect?

I never made you look like a bad guy. I pointed out obvious facts.

[BeepBoop]

Two of my best buds argueing ;-; make upppp

[Jovaniph]

keep in mind...I use a third party IRC... So Yes...I do know whats going on.

edit: Yes I'm a stalker, yadadada. say what you want.

[Jovaniph]

To be honest, it seems as though you, as well as many other players, have unreasonable expectations of staff members. Every staff member simply cannot be on the same page for a vague set of rules, and we all can't be here at the same time to share opinions (especially during inactive hours where one or two helpers maximum are available, and there are typically no mods).

You guys don't need to be on at the same time to be on the same page. It's called using the forums and private messages. So in other words, those 'expectations' are not unreasonable.

edit: We live in 2016 now. We have Forums, PMs, Emails, Text, Voicemail... To say its unreasonable is nothing but an excuse.

[Kye]

The main thing is the rules need to be made clearer because some staff members are too nice and don't mute where others occasionally get mute happy.

[A_Land_Whale]

keep in mind...I use a third party IRC... So Yes...I do know whats going on.

edit: Yes I'm a stalker, yadadada. say what you want.

Why do you care about any of this even in the slightest?

[Jovaniph]

keep in mind...I use a third party IRC... So Yes...I do know whats going on.

edit: Yes I'm a stalker, yadadada. say what you want.

Why do you care about any of this even in the slightest?

Why do you care about what I do with my personal life? If you got something to say, say it. Feel free to accuse me for something that I am not.

[amp]

To be honest, it seems as though you, as well as many other players, have unreasonable expectations of staff members. Every staff member simply cannot be on the same page for a vague set of rules, and we all can't be here at the same time to share opinions (especially during inactive hours where one or two helpers maximum are available, and there are typically no mods).

You guys don't need to be on at the same time to be on the same page. It's called using the forums and private messages. So in other words, those 'expectations' are not unreasonable.

edit: We live in 2016 now. We have Forums, PMs, Emails, Text, Voicemail... To say its unreasonable is nothing but an excuse.

Ok, so, you want us to be doing a full time job? Most of us have school, and then jobs on top of that. Honestly, being a staff member is a lot of work. No matter what we do, it's wrong, and someone will always be there to tell us what we did was wrong. It's terrible. The only way to solve this would be constant contact between staff members; Which wouldn't work anyways because we all have different opinions of what falls under which rules. So, we'd have to argue it out in TS for 12 hours a day every day, and probably never get a solution.

[Jovaniph]

Ok, so, you want us to be doing a full time job? Most of us have school, and then jobs on top of that. Honestly, being a staff member is a lot of work. No matter what we do, it's wrong, and someone will always be there to tell us what we did was wrong. It's terrible. The only way to solve this would be constant contact between staff members; Which wouldn't work anyways because we all have different opinions of what falls under which rules. So, we'd have to argue it out in TS for 12 hours a day every day, and probably never get a solution.

I didn't know it taking 5 minutes of your day to read a post on the forums counts as a full time job. Lets be realistic here. I'll make a scenario here.

Helpers: Bob, Bill, Joe
Mod: Barbara
Topic: On subject of cursing

Private Message#1 Day 1
From: Bob
To: Barbara
Subject: What is excessive cursing?
- What can we define as excessive use of cursing? Do you think its okay for players to indirectly curse if they do not target other players?

Private Message#2 Day 2
From: Barbara
To: Bob
Subject: Reply> What is excessive cursing?
- As long as it doesn't annoy other players, its fine. You should tell the helpers to give out warnings if they constantly curse, not if they curse just one time every 10 minutes or so. Basically warn people who curse like sailors.

Private Message#3 Day 3
From: Bob
To: Barbara
Subject: Reply>Reply> What is excessive cursing?
- Okay thanks, I'll post it on the helpers forum so everyone can be on the same page

Forums>Helper Forum Day 4
Subject: Excessive Cursing
- Okay so just for everyone to be on the same page, I talked with Barbara about how you should handle cursing in craftland. For the most part, indirect cursing is allowed, but we should warn people who constantly curse, or curse like sailors. One curse word/sentence per 10 minutes is acceptable. Anything below that should be a warning.

Reply From: Bill
- Read and Understand. Thanks for the heads up

Reply From: Joe
- Read and Understand. Aright, I'll tone down the warnings from now on and follow what you just said. Thanks Bob and Barbara

----End Scenario---


^ HOW IS THAT A FULL TIME JOB? This is sooooo easy. You know why? Because it just takes 5 minutes of your time to read and reply a post and get on the same page.